Thursday, October 22, 2009

What happened to PEWTER FOREVER???

Privateer Press doing the unthinkable ... I know this isn't really breaking news or anything but PP looks to be moving to plastic. I am quite certain once they take the plunge it won't be long before a good portion (if not all) of their line goes that way. I personally have been long since converted to a plastic mini fan (pun intended). Once you get paint on the models they look no different than a pewter model. Yes indeed I do have a slight sadness in my heart when I pick up a model and it doesn't have that old time pewter heft to it ... but I like to do conversions ... and plastic is sooooo much easier to do conversions with. You don't have to worry as much about pinning heavy limbs, etc. with plastic. With pewter while it does have some nice benefits like stripping paint off of old models for example ... and just overall durability ... I feel that the benefits of plastic outweigh the detriments. So I'm glad that PP is backtracking on that statement they made long ago about "NEVER" going to plastic.

Now if only they could clean up the rules of the game and I've seen Mark II and I'm not satisfied ... after the preliminary read of the rules I'd say its just a cleanup of Mark I ... nothing huge. I love the Iron Kingdoms universe, I like the vast majority of the models in the range ... and I like Warmachine for a fun casual game against a friend but I utterly hate the game for competitive play and Mark II won't change that. I can only hope for a major revamp in Mark III. Until then ... still a fan ... Warmachine will remain my friendly game for cold winter afternoons ... while 40K shall remain my first and only choice for a fun game, a scenario game and a game that I might actually play in a tournament.

7 comments:

Mike Howell said...

Yes, I clearly remember page 5. "So play like you've got a pair, or put down the metal and go find something made of plastic."

Apparently the two weren't mutually exclusive.

Sammy said...

I agree with you fully on the plastic being way easier to convert I don't really believe that evolving how you do things is a bad thing at all, yes there are the arguments that plastic doesn't get as good of detail, but im not sure I see that, especially with all the new technology that goes with the process of making plastic models. Its still fairly new as far as I know and new technology only gets better over time as it is constantly being developed and evolving so to speak. The only main downside to plastic models versus metal ones that I have seen so far is the weight, plastic models don't want to stay standing as well unless you weight the base.

The Lord of Excess said...

Ya my trick is (on a non-slotta base) the old tried and true ... glue a penny to the bottom. On the slotta bases I use small lead fishing weights occasionally. Like I said ... the thing I really love about pewter is being able to strip your models down five years later and repaint them good as new. You can do that with plastic ... but its harder and there is always a residue of paint left behind. Its all good though I guess as long as they keep on making cool minis ... plastic or pewter ... I'm buying ... lol

Sammy said...

the penny trick works well but none of the new kits or models come with unslota bases carving out the plastic works but not the greatest. I haven't been gaming long enough to experience the stripping problem so ill take your word for it. and yes as long as new awsome minis keep coming out ill buy them too whatever they are made out of.

The Lord of Excess said...

I agree! One thing to remember too is that you can buy for like 4 dollars or so 20 MM GW bases in bags that are not slotta bases. So if your really wanting to do some heavy conversions that will create top heavy models, go to the local GW store and pick some up (or mail order em from GW direct or any of the other online retailers) ... dunno what the best source for GW stuff is up in Canada. In the states its The Warstore.

Will said...

A simple trick to weigh down slotta models is to save all the extra metal sprue material that metal bits come on. Its thin enough to glue under and you can cut several strips to fill in.

Eli Arndt said...

I respect the change to plastic. It allowed them to produce large models for less and also addressed some chronic issues they had with the larger models warping during cooling.

-Eli